whats-up-persona which is the one with the content i was referring to) joined my server today they posted their blog and my friend liked the url and decided to look into their blog. They found NSFW work of Futaba who is a minor and is only 15. We spoke to the user on discord and kindly told them why we were kicking them and they got angry.
akiratakeyourheartkurusu ( their discord being ♔~Akira Kurusu~♔#1174 )had joined the server beforehand and was the significant other of lemonrazorblades. They were very angry that we kicked their girlfriend and told us off first stating that they personally didn’t know futaba was 14 and then moments later defending their girlfriend.
they left and moments later a discord by the name of
Boysenberry Erai#1181 comes in and spams loads of futaba child porn into the server. It was extremely upsetting and childish of them to do. Sadly I didn’t catch the numbers of Lemonrazorblades discord but I do have this screenshot of a mod in my server confronting them.
Please if you could all spread this in order to keep others safe from these predators that would be greatly appreciated. They really upset me and the others in the server. Forgive me for any typos or errors, I’m still very very shaken. They’re also now claiming us of harassing when the only message that was sent aside from my mods message to them was a message from me explaining why I banned the person. They are saying we’re accusing them of doing this shit, when they literally are doing this shit. They probably didn’t think we’d come that them with all this stuff, so yeah…we did.
note: also you can say our server said no nsfw and you didn’t post nsfw, but you posted a blog linking directly to nsfw of a child, refuse to tag nsfw on your blog, and pedophilia is not a allowed on the server and seeing to the fact that she’s 15 years old, that’s nsfw of a minor. Which is not allowed in or out of server and is illegal.
-mod goro
Persona characters are not real people. They are not pedos. What makes
you able to judge an adult over their life choices? There is a HUGE
difference between anime/game characters and real people. We don’t go
out and fuck real kids you sick fuck. And for the record, yes. I’m 27.
My gf is 24. We cosplay as the characters and we are a couple. We RP
them at a college state. Anyone want to start shit, come at me cause I’m
not a pedophile but I don’t enjoy being called out as one. -Malkira
Alloces.
I’m 27. I am an adult. I have sex. I read hentai and
write it for amusement. But a pedo I am not. It’s called adult
entertainment. You go to conventions and see thousands of doujins for
sale. You don’t see the shop owners in trouble. It’s official merch. You
can buy pillows of Futaba, risque. SHE IS AN ANIME/GAME character. Not a
real life fucking being.
You’re fucking kids and have to get
off your high horse and stop thinking you can judge others based on
their preferences. But over all, you’re ignorant as fuck for attacking
someone and calling them a pedo for liking a GAME character. You’re not some white knight warrior, changing the world for the better.
You can stop saying that cartoon fan art and fanfiction is “illegal” now.
And
before you cry about anyone “supporting pedophilia!!!”, the point here
is that what you’re complaining about (aka, shipping teenage cartoon
characters, which has been a thing for decades) IS NOT PEDOPHILIA. Literally no one else has ever even considered it to be that before, and you’re abusing what that word means.
According to the 18 U.S. Code § 2256 (yes, the same code that antis have been using a screencap of, but omitting the last part of in order to conceal the truth):
“The
term “indistinguishable” used with respect to a depiction, means
virtually indistinguishable, in that the depiction is such that an
ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction
is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct. This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults.”
Also note the phrase “recognizable as an actual person” in 9ii.
(For
real though–I have to laugh if you’re gonna tell me cartoons and anime
characters look like real human beings. Like, who the fuck has eyes the
size of fists and heads the size of pumpkins??? You guys are idiots…)
This is also further upheld by the Supreme Court ruling of Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition, and again in Ashcroft vs American Civil Liberties Union (the PROTECT Act has also had related portions–specifically 1466A, which antis love to parade around–judged as unconstitutional on a federal level, as was a result of United States v. Handley, in which the defendant was convicted due to a guilty plea bargain, and not
actually convicted on the initial charges of obscenity. The plea
bargain was made under the belief that the jury chosen to judge him
would not acquit
him of the obscenity charges if they were shown the images in
question). Handley’s case is the only one so far that dealt solely with drawings of characters that did not exist in real life (as
in, without further discovery of more serious content in the
defendant’s possession–or ties to illegal sites–which is what occurred
with other cases that antis tend to cite).
Also:
13-17-year-olds (aka minors) only make up 15% of this site’s user base. Meanwhile, the site has always allowed adult content.
This means that staff is trusting you to browse appropriately, and to
take responsibility for your browsing using the tools they have given to
you (like blocking, and filtering search results). They are allowing
you to be here under the assumption that you are mature enough to handle
it. Your behavior is only showing staff that they might want to raise
the minimum age limit (which is 17+ for mobile users, by the way).
When faced with the choice of either trying to monitor/control millions
of people, or simply adding a new age limitation, a company will always choose the easier option. Don’t ruin the site for all the teens that aren’t huge, easily-offended pissbabies.
No, fiction does not affect reality the way you want to believe.The
statistics for rape, child abuse, assault, murder, etc. have all
experienced a dramatic decline over the past few decades, in spite of
our media becoming more graphically violent, and pornography being more
easily accessible. Your logic just doesn’t hold up to the facts (by the
way, this also applies to stories with mature themes like rape or
murder, or stories with abusive or taboo relationships. IT’S JUST
FICTION, PEOPLE. It’s a reflection of various aspects of our
humanity, which includes the things we most fear. Writing and reading
about them is one way we can strip them of that fear and power they hold
over us. It doesn’t mean we stop recognizing those things as morally
wrong–it’s just a way of reconciling their existence, and coping with
it).
The internet is not a babysitter. Small
children shouldn’t be on it unsupervised to begin with. If you
wouldn’t let them go to Columbia by themselves–the drug and murder
capitol of the world–then they shouldn’t be online by themselves. Public spaces are not “safe”. It’s not the job of millions of strangers to constantly look out for other people’s children (nor are they obligated to look out for you, for that matter). That’s the responsibility of their PARENTS. PERIOD.
An abuser can groom a victim without ever using anything sexual whatsoever. It’s about trust. It can be something as simple as an interest in model airplanes–does that make those
“problematic”? As for those abusers, chances are that they’re not some
random stranger on the internet, but someone known to the victim. You
may not want to hear this, but the greatest threat to children
statistically? It’stheirownmothers.
Antis
only came about within the past two years. Before that, there was no
real drama in fandoms beyond the occasional shipping war, which no one
treated like anything but a shipping war. You are the ones that made fandoms toxic. Fan art and fanfiction didn’t affect any of us the way you’re claiming before. Hell–people have been sexualizing cartoons for literally as long as they’ve existed. That’s almost 100 fucking years,
and it hasn’t caused a goddamn thing. You’re abusing and trivializing
extremely serious issues in order to use as leverage to threaten and
silence others, and you bloody well know it. You choose the things that you’re aware that everyone hates:
Pedophilia, abuse, etc. You know that just mentioning these things
causes an instant knee-jerk reaction–one that few people will bother to
look into beyond the initial claim. You’re deliberately emotionally manipulating others. Those are the tactics of abusers (and don’t even say “UM you’re calling survivors abusers!!”, because those who have been abused are the biggest demographic at risk for becoming abusers. No, it doesn’t mean every abused child grows up to be an abuser, but the number of serial killers that were abused as children is hard to ignore).
Adult content of fictional characters could actually help prevent cases of child sexual abuse. But then, we all know this was never about children for any
anti, or you wouldn’t limit your concern to just the cartoons that
you’re personally interested in. Honestly, I would think you’d be more
concerned about the fact that sites like Pornhub and Redtube require no
age verification, account, password, or credit card to access.
Point blank: What you are doing is called “crying wolf”, and it has real consequences.
For example: Anti-vaxxers. All it took was one man claiming a link
between vaccines and autism, and now diseases like polio are turning up
again because of people who refuse to vaccinate their children. If you make claims of pedophilia where it doesn’t actually exist, you are hurting legitimate claims of pedophilia.
Oh,
and by the way–if you choose to falsely accuse another user of
pedophilia, that IS enough of a violation of the Terms of Service for
staff to delete your account. I’d tell you to just ask
“bipolaramyrose”, but well…she no longer has an account for that very reason.
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