petitemite:

A quick analysis of the end of Chapter 56

Sangwoo wakes from a rather unpleasant dream and finds Bum sucking him off (Side note: don’t have sex with unconscious people). 

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Bum is taking an active role, while Sangwoo is in a passive role. This dynamic that Bum has put them into angers him, and he grabs Bum off the floor and  onto the table, reestablishing him in the dominant position and Bum in the submissive position.

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Bum is either too drunk or too horney realize how ticked Sangwoo is. And Bum, just going with the flow, stares moaning out “Babe.” This is clearly triggering for Sangwoo, and so he finds the most practical why to shut Bum up: shoving a corncob in his mouth.

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Bum, who’s not type to judge you on your cornkink, continues to go with the flow and decides he’s gonna ride that dick, because yolo.

However, doing so, reverts Sangwoo back into a more submissive position.

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Sangwoo starts to panic.

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His mind, responding to the distress, reverts to old tacts that kept him safe/alive in the past, which is appeasing the ‘attacker’. He asks if the other feels good (assessing the other’s state, while mimicking positive engagement), and states that he feels good too (assuring the other that everything is okay, that there’s no reason for violent escalation). At the same time he’s demanding to see Bum’s face, to help ground him in reality, that right now he’s with Bum.

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But he slips up.

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Now a couple small predictions for the next chapter, Sangwoo doesn’t want to disclose what his mother did to him, and so if Sangwoo is going to tell Bum, he’s needs a really good reason too. Bum, I doubt would judge Sangwoo for what happened to him, if Sangwoo does tell him the truth. However, in the last two chapter’s Bum has stressed that he wants to feel like they are in a real relationship, that he is loved, and that this love is genuine. But Sangwoo wasn’t thinking about him while they were having sex.

When Sangwoo brought Bum up from the basement, he told him three important things:

1. Bum reminded him of his mom

2. That he loved his mom

3. And he asked if Bum wanted to be the mom

If Bum convinces himself that Sangwoo is just projecting his mother on him, that Sangwoo doesn’t actually love him, it will break his heart.

fictional-serial-killer:

koulej:

anonsx2:

So fandom, what got you into KS in the beginning?

I found some ks fanart and not literally interest to read it, but I gave it a try and DAMMIT, cAn’T STapH , Won’T stAPh.

I kept seeing it on my dash but I wasn’t planning to read it bc it looked like your random cringey rape/abuse condoning BL … But my friend insisted to try it because she thought I’d like it … Well, she was right xD

The first post I saw about it on tumblr looked like this: 

I thought it was gonna be some guro shit about murdering twinks. 

I literally accidentally came upon it when I was trying to find a different horror comic. I read the first chapter and went “okay not what I was trying to find but I like it” and so now I am stuck.

fictional-serial-killer:

natsumi82:

petitemite:

fictional-serial-killer:

So, I was skimming through Season 3, and it occurred to me you could throw out most of it and nothing of value would be lost. Just start out with Sangwoo being nice to Bum, maybe one or two chapters at a fuck hotel, then in chapter 3 kill the uncle and go from there. Get straight to the creepy mom backstory, because I’m pretty sure that’s the whole point of this arc. 

I’ve been thinking about this a lot.

I remember the editor describing the season as ‘maddening’, which makes sense if they were referring to the pacing (k, sorry that was mean).

Koogi said once in an interview that Killing stalking would be either 3 of 4 seasons long, and I wonder if her editor had persuaded her into doing the latter. Then when creating the 3rd arc, there wasn’t really enough content to create ~20 chapter, so certain scenes were stretched out and filler events were added in. Also with shorter chapters, there’s less room for multiple major events to fit into the same chapter, so they’re spread out over the weeks.

lDK, I feel like I’ve been waiting this entire season for things to ramp up, and when it finally does, the chapter ends. Like there’s some really good content this season (like when they went drinking and almost crashed into a truck), but every time I purchase a chapter, I question if I’m better off just looking at spoilers on tumblr.

I was one of the persons the editor told “next season will be mad” so it really hurts lol

As you said, the seasons has very good moments ( for example I really liked the uncle’s death, because it focused more on Bum’s reaction than in the murder itself) but all in all, nothing really relevant happened. At least, it seemed the uncle’s death could have been a game-changer for the plot ( we have seen a lot of character development in Bum) but then in chapter 51 they were back to Sangbum fluff as if 18 chapters never existed.

And even the flashback of Sangwoo’s past are mostly pointless. Differently from Bum’s flashbacks that changed in a relevant way the plot or their relationship – chapter 19 is the cause of Jieun’s death while the ones with the Uncle is season 2 were the catalyst of one of the most powerful chapter in the series – Sangwoo’s backstory didn’t add anything, especially because we have already known most of the information since the beginning ( Sangwoo’s abusive childhood, her mom was crazy, his trust issues) or we had figured in season 1 that his mommy issues were the reason he targeted girls with a beauty mark .
Actually we’re even more confused because after two chapters and a half we still don’t know if the father was a 100% good man or a wolf in sheep clothes, or simple but important details as where the fuck is the small table that led to one the first bonding scene between Sangwoo and Bum.
Plus,
it’s not that the past is suddenly influencing Sangwoo’s actions now, and Bum doesn’t know anything about it.

I still love KS like the first day but this season has been a huge filler, I can’t wait for season 4 at this point :/

Yeah, there’s definitely been some great moments, but the unbearable tension from the first two seasons is gone. And I feel like the mom flashbacks would work better if Bum knew about them. Sangwoo was so chatty about his mom when Bum poisoned him, how come he doesn’t talk about it now?

enaaaaaam:

beenbekossi:

microwaveable-kitty:

So, this chapter showed that Bum’s delusions/hallucinations (or fantasy/daydream) sometimes appear clearer than the other panels.

Bum starts off in the doorway, Sangwoo across the room.

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Now, Bum is close enough that he simply reached his hand out and is able to touch Sangwoo. The white overlay isn’t as prominent in the next three panels.

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Sangwoo suddenly speaks and Bum looks surprised and confused and notice…

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He’s still in the doorway. Exactly where he was before.

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I have to go back and check other chapters but it looks like before we see something only happening in Bum’s mind the panels showing what actually is happening get more hazy.

So bum actually didn’t stroke sangwoo’s hair and sangwoo didn’t lean to his touch like how cats do?

I’m sad now

so about the kink that sangwoo likes his hair being pulled during bang bang is false…

topic for desscusion:what was bum to the uncle?

beenbekossi:

after reading chapter 46 i got confused and curious of what kind of relationship the uncle had with bum and how actually the uncle felt about him

at first i thought bum was to the uncle the child of his ex-girlfriend and brother whom he hated a lot cuz both of them sort of betrayed him when they got together and now he have to take care of their child and since he sees him as the “product” of his father’s sins or whatever he put his anger for those past years on him and thats why he was always abusive to him. 

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and because bum (physically) looks a lot like his mom he begun imagining having sex with her by raping him.

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so I thought bum was just a person who he hated but is forced to take care of and was taking advantages of that by raping him 

but he actually was  kind to him or wanted to be kind to him at some points…

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what does this mean? does he sometimes sees him as a son? and he switches between being kind and cruel depending on his mood like sangwoo?

but he says stuff to him like….

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he says stuff that lovers or ex-lovers would usually say to each other. so I assume he somehow is exchanging bum’s mom with bum not just sexually but  completely cuz he couldn’t forget about her. he wants to believe that eunjoo (bum) wants to be with him and doesn’t want to left him for someone else… and he also wants to believe that bum was enjoying it when he forces himself on him cuz he actually wants him in that way too (or that what rapests do to justify them selfs)  

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so when he thought bum was being with someone else now and is actually rebellious to him he said these stuff…

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i think bum was an important person in the uncle’s life and thats why he came all the way to sangwoo’s house ( that doesn’t mean he liked him or cared about him) he needed him to fill in the gab that eunjoo made when she left him and bum was the victim to all of this.

I just waned to share my thoughts and i would like to hear opinions about this topic

I rarely add my two cents into things but I feel the uncle was kinder to Bum whdn bum was younger because he didnt look like his mother quite yet. He didnt see his ex just a kid. It also is implied that the uncle didnt use to live with the grandma, but rather on his own. That is why he and Bum didnt see to know each other in the flashback, Bum was living with his grandma.

It seems the uncle moved in with them both later on, possibly after being laid off or demoted. It is implied his uncle is a drinker, possibly another reason he moved in. That likely alcoholism mixed with Bum being older likely triggered the start of the abuse an later sexual abuse towards Bum.

fictional-serial-killer:

anonsx2:

koulej:

anonsx2:

koulej:

personart-space:

Is it just me or Bum lied to Sangwoo? When he was opening up about his self harm and telling him he grew up with his grandparents, he said “I live with my uncle now”.

But he doesn’t?

When Sangwoo goes to Bum’s apartment to collect a bunch of his stuff it’s clear that he lives on his own, since he has stopped paying the rent and everything is messy (and there are his sex toys in the bathroom), so obviously no one else lives there.

It doesn’t make sense for the uncle to tell him “let’s go home”

Because they! Don’t! Live! Together!

Bum has his own (crappy and shabby) apartment!

This is just helping me to convince myself even more that he is hallucinating (read my previous theory where I talk about it if you want!)

Alright bye 🙂

What has been said in the notes makes me wonder: what if his uncle blackmailed him and let him live alone in exchange of more abuse and rape? Bum doesn’t work so he wouldn’t have the money to pay all the monthly bills of his apartment … If that’s the case, it would also make sense for his uncle to ask him if he was selling his body to his ‘new owner’ in exchange of living in Sangwoo’s house, since Bum must have not enough money of his own to live in complete independence.

I think what @koulej said was right since in this panel, it doesn’t look like their house when bum used to live when he was a child, this place look like Bum’s shabby apartment where he lives alone, but his uncle repeatedly came there to rape him

just to fulfill his disgusting desire

and as an exchange for paying his university fees?? 

his uncle might made him drunk since we can see some wain bottles in his room, it doesn’t make any sense that Bum bought the wain by his own will, since he told Sangwoo that he never drink, but his uncle made him. or maybe not, since he said his uncle made him drunk in HIS room, not his. But who knows?

True!! 😮 ^^^

About the getting drunk thing, maybe Bum just referred to the first time uncle made him drink alcohol, which might have happened in his room back when they were still living together. What we see in the panels you posted might have happened later when he was living alone and his uncle visited him with bad intentions to ‘make him gain that money’. Maybe he brought some alcohol every time he visited.

Nasty… Urgh. Now, I truly understand why you don’t ever want to see your uncle, Bum. 😦 It’s make me wonder, if his uncle want to rape Bum, why do he want to make bum living alone? I think it’ll not cause any problem if he doing it at home and let bum keep living with his grandma?

 All the reason I can think of is, his grandma might asking him to send Bum to the college, but he make bum living separately with his grandma so he can do all the nasty things to bum, without his grandma ever know + for paying his university fees. two birds in one stone? “oh do you want me to waste my money on your fucking college for filthy brat like you? Pay it with your body first”

AND THAT’S SO DISGUSTING!

Huh, for some reason I hadn’t considered that the uncle was paying for the apartment and Bum’s college. But of course. How else would Bum pay for it? That implies it was a pretty regular thing. 

space-009:

koulej:

You know what scares me the most about Sangwoo? It’s that, seeing how good he is at faking and building a façade, if he has chosen his victim he WILL get her sooner or later. He’s very good at reading others’ character and go with it to manipulate them. He may not be your type but he can probably act like a completely different person and make you fall for it if he wants. It would be pretty hard to escape someone manipulative like him, no matter how smart you are or your taste in guys. Look at the two girls in last chapter, they were already dead, if only Sangwoo wanted.

This is so true. It makes me think that sooner than later we’ll be able to see him in his beast mode again, since all this facade, playing the perfect man is exhausting as fuck. In the end, you must take a break from faking it and let your “true self” out, at least for a moment.

♥

beenbekossi:

fictional-serial-killer:

What am I thinking? I’m not thinking or planning anything.

So, I think this is more like, “I’m not thinking or planning anything right now,” rather than “I never think or plan anything ever.”

Makes sense. I also understood it that way like right now he just want to have a good time he doesn’t want to plan or think or do anything he just want to have fun

youareagoodperson:

sangwoo-hoo:

cankankrious:

Abuse in KS (some spoilers)

(TW: mentions of abuse, violence, rape)

I feel like a lot of the really cool things, in terms of social commentary, that Koogi is doing with Killing Stalking go unnoticed because everybody’s focused on what in my opinion are kind of trivial in a Korean context. And one of those cool things she does has to do with abuse. (Wait what?! I thought Koogi’s depiction of abuse was completely and irrevocably ~problematic~!!!)

A little backstory here—domestic abuse, particularly against women, is frighteningly common in Korea. Women teach their daughters “safe breakup techniques” (e.g., breaking up in a public place rather than a private one). A recent study showed that almost 80% of Korean men have abused a romantic partner in some way, with many of them not even recognizing their behavior as abuse. Actually, it was only just recently (2013) that the Korean Supreme Court ruled that a man could be legally prosecuted for raping his wife! Furthermore, in Korea, more women than men are killed due to violence, which is unusual for a developed nation.

All of that said, depictions of domestic abuse are not as common in Korean media as in American media. It’s hush-hush, a We Don’t Talk About That kind of topic. To illustrate, when I was studying abroad in Korea, flyers for a feminist seminar on sexual abuse were posted on the inside of bathroom stall doors and did not specify the exact time or place. For the location, it literally said (in Korean), “Somewhere in [building].” You had to text a number to get that information (I assume—I did not try it because my Korean isn’t that good), and all of this was probably so they wouldn’t get harassed or shut down. Just for talking about sexual violence.

But Koogi talks about it in Killing Stalking, in a strikingly fearless way.

She shows the ugly reality of how Sangwoo’s father treated him and his mother. She shows, in no ambiguous or delicate terms, Sangwoo’s father raping his mother—in a country where many people believe that “marital rape” is an oxymoron. She shows how a seemingly “perfect man” (attractive, smart, friendly) and still twisted, harmful, and unforgivable. She shows that men can be raped, just as women can. (Korean law defines nonconsensual anal penetration as “pseudo-rape.”) And she shows, in a way that arouses anger and dread in her readers, how domestic abuse can go ignored (or even possibly aided) by older family members for the sake of pride, as Bum’s grandmother did when Bum’s uncle was abusing him.

Sangwoo insists he is not like his father, but Koogi literally draws parallels between specific things he’s done to Bum and specific things his father did to his mother. She sends the implicit message (because that’s what good writing is, folks) that an abusive homosexual relationship and an abusive heterosexual relationship are fundamentally the same thing.

That’s not all I admire about the series, but this is a really big thing that I haven’t noticed people talking about. Anyway…

Yes, Killing Stalking is disturbing. Yes, there is a lack of consent in many of the sexual situations depicted. Yes, the whole thing makes you a little sick, with its dark, dull color scheme and graphic violence and the character’s freaky expressions. But it also might be something Korea really, really needs right now.

THIS

It’s almost as if cultural context matters or something