So not only did Bum write fan fiction of Sang and himself, but Sangwoo took the time to read it AND remember most of it. Bitch. What timeline is this???
Sangwoo scrolling through Bum’s friend fiction is the funniest mental image. I wanna see his reaction faces.
Sangwoo knows that he can’t be the good guy, when he gets angry and psycho he regrets it, he doesn’t want to be like his father, but he can’t help it
even though we see that he changed:
he’s trying to be nicer, he’s going out with bum,he’s avoiding hard topics when he talks to him (chapter 36, Sangwoo apologizes when he start to talk about his uncle)
he’s an asshole but something is changing
Sangwoo is realizing what he did, he’s doesn’t want to hurt bum, he doesn’t want to be trusted
I think its because he is still insulted by the fact he was essentially called “old and used” again by sangwoo right after trying to thank him for a ‘fun’ night. Even if Sangwoo apologized he still said mean things to his face again.
This chapter was something else. We learned that Sangwoo has had a incestuous relationship with his mom, Yoonbum is still in bandages, Yoonbum still has a nice ass, Sangwoo hasn’t choked or abused Yoon, Sangwoo actually feeds Yoom real food and more sad childhood stories.
Damn it, Koogi, I wasn’t ready to be emotional of the new season. I’m so torn with everything. Sangwoo is an asshole but he was a victim of abuse as a child and NOW I have sympathy for him. Sympathy for a psychopath! He’s evil and kills people.
As for Yoonbum it seems he’s gaining some weight, which is a good thing because this man suffered a lot since the beginning. Feed him more!
I really like the seriousness of this chapter ^^ I am looking forward to the next one!
I honestly thought bum was gonna be so affected mentally by what happened last chapter especially when sangwoo told him “ you thought I was your lover?” like being sad or crying or at least giving sangwoo the silent treatment again. But instead he was staring as sangwoo’s sleeping face all day 😆
But it’s kinda making me glad that both of them went on with thier life like nothing happened so no complaining
Okay, some wrong facts here and things I am tired of Antis throwing out there because they don’t read the comic.
1. Yoon Bum is not gay, he is Bisexual. He has an attraction to men and women.
2. Sangwoo is also bisexual, he has interest in men and women. Neither are gay, neither are straight.
3. It is a story about how abuse can appear in ANY relationship in ANY community and what its like DEALING with the abuse. It does not sexualize it, yes some fans do, most do not. Every sex scene in the comic has been very clearly made to be terrifying and intense, its meant to make you uneasy.
4. Without reading the comics or anything you cannot pass judgement on what it is or isn’t doing.
5. Antis, especially extremists, are not welcome on my blog, your passive aggressive behavior is not welcome.
6. If you don’t like what I like and you think I’m upsetting, block me, unfollow me and black list my tag. all Killing Stalking stuff I reblog I tag ks. simple.
The reason its associated unfortunately with romance is the fact it is considered BL. Which a lot of people misinterpret (including antis) as it meaning romance. BL means by definition: comics that feature m/m relationships or sex. Does not mean its romantic. So KS is yes a BL comic for the two male characters (both admitted bisexuals) are technically in a relationship and sexual content. Is the sex romantic? Definitely not.
But no the series is meant to display what its like to be in an abusive relationship. there are ‘positive’ moments where the two show some care for each other or gentle moments such as kissing or emotional connections, but that is how real life abuse is. Its not just bad, lots of abusive relationships have their tender moments which is why for many its hard to leave them because they think of the good not the bad parts of it. So it is a very realistic depiction. So I enjoy it due to that. I myself have been harassed and manipulated in high school and the comic helps me cope but that is definitely not the same for everyone. Everyone is different.
If you don’t like killing stalking, you can unfollow me if you like or block me. I don’t mind. I don’t post much about it, but I do enjoy the story. Yes she did say she never researched it deeply, but she also said she based the characters off of what her mentally ill friends (who she did not name out of respect) said it felt like having the illness. Everyone is different, and I know plenty of bpd people (including my best friend) who read the comics and enjoy them.
But, this isn’t a blog dedicated to the series. I just enjoy it as someone who enjoys horror as well as psychological horror. You do not need to read it nor like the series, so feel free to block me if that is preferred. Have a great day!
Friendly reminder that Killing Stalking and other media that glorifies abuse especially towards lgbt individuals is problematic
When tf did it ’glorify’ abuse? It shows an abusive unhealthy relationship? Is that glorifying it?
Exactly. Showing an abusive relationship doesn’t mean glorification. By that logic, uncle toms cabin is racist and promotes slavery because the story *has* slavery….
To quote Lemony Snicket:
“I’m sorry, I’m at a loss on how to write a villain who doesn’t do villainous things.”
The mentally ill are much more likely to be victims of crimes. Sometimes their behaviors lead them to being more easily targeted for crimes, not through their intention but simply what they do or say and because sociopaths or manipulative people see them as easy targets that will likely not fight back or not know how to get help.
Killing Stalking portrays a mentally ill person who has found himself in the clutches of a sociopath. It is a “worst case scenario” situation because it’s not a mentally healthy individual who is being toyed with by Sangwoo who would be repulsed and terrified by his actions, but a mentally ill person like Yoonbum whose obsession with, and difficulty with consistently recognizing and acknowledging how *wrong* the actions of, Sangwoo thus makes it even more of a nightmare. You are a slave to your unregulated, illogical impulses brought about by your illness. He sees the danger and the threat but the malfunctioning parts of his brain still cling desperately to the idea that Sangwoo loves him. It’s not romantic, it’s pitiful and tragic and messed up in the same way that a person who is tortured to insanity by a villain ends up being their braindead slave. That’s what I get out of it as someone who fears that I will one day get in with a fucking serial killer due to my horrible judge of character and end up actually falling for them despite my better self telling me to haul ass out of there.
As a content creator and an animator who studied script writing and story development, you need some stories that are bad as in the characters are not good people. Without villains we cannot have good stories. And not all stories have happy endings, not all stories are happy. Look at the horror genre, that is a prime example of “problematic” stories and they have existed for centuries. Yes the story is about a very unhealthy abusive relationship, but it is not glorifying it, it is done in a way that is suppose to make you uncomfortable, on edge and scared. Its not romanticizing it as 50 Shades did, it is making it clear that this is not a healthy pair. And if people like them as characters, then they like them as characters. A good villain is a good villain, we like having people we hate. Bad guys have plenty of fans, look at Loki and Magneto, they are problematic for they have literally murdered people, many people. Yet I don’t see any call outs over them being problematic.
Just because a character is lgbta+ doesn’t mean anything, that doesn’t change who they are at the core. You can be good or evil no matter your sexuality or gender, and saying that a character who is bisexual cant’ be evil is absolutely ridiculous. Real lgbta+ people are abused, real gay men and gay women abuse their partners. So a depiction of someone abusing another bisexual man isn’t homophobic, that is just people jumping to conclusions. Abuse exists in all communities, and this shows the absolute darkest “worst case” of it.
If you do not like this sort of story, that is perfectly fine you can not read it. But, don’t bully or target others for it. “Problematic” media exists, and so does the block button.
I feel like a lot of the really cool things, in terms of social commentary, that Koogi is doing with Killing Stalking go unnoticed because everybody’s focused on what in my opinion are kind of trivial in a Korean context. And one of those cool things she does has to do with abuse. (Wait what?! I thought Koogi’s depiction of abuse was completely and irrevocably ~problematic~!!!)
A little backstory here—domestic abuse, particularly against women, is frighteningly common in Korea. Women teach their daughters “safe breakup techniques” (e.g., breaking up in a public place rather than a private one). A recent study showed that almost 80% of Korean men have abused a romantic partner in some way, with many of them not even recognizing their behavior as abuse. Actually, it was only just recently (2013) that the Korean Supreme Court ruled that a man could be legally prosecuted for raping his wife! Furthermore, in Korea, more women than men are killed due to violence, which is unusual for a developed nation.
All of that said, depictions of domestic abuse are not as common in Korean media as in American media. It’s hush-hush, a We Don’t Talk About That kind of topic. To illustrate, when I was studying abroad in Korea, flyers for a feminist seminar on sexual abuse were posted on the inside of bathroom stall doors and did not specify the exact time or place. For the location, it literally said (in Korean), “Somewhere in [building].” You had to text a number to get that information (I assume—I did not try it because my Korean isn’t that good), and all of this was probably so they wouldn’t get harassed or shut down. Just for talking about sexual violence.
But Koogi talks about it in Killing Stalking, in a strikingly fearless way.
She shows the ugly reality of how Sangwoo’s father treated him and his mother. She shows, in no ambiguous or delicate terms, Sangwoo’s father raping his mother—in a country where many people believe that “marital rape” is an oxymoron. She shows how a seemingly “perfect man” (attractive, smart, friendly) and still twisted, harmful, and unforgivable. She shows that men can be raped, just as women can. (Korean law defines nonconsensual anal penetration as “pseudo-rape.”) And she shows, in a way that arouses anger and dread in her readers, how domestic abuse can go ignored (or even possibly aided) by older family members for the sake of pride, as Bum’s grandmother did when Bum’s uncle was abusing him.
Sangwoo insists he is not like his father, but Koogi literally draws parallels between specific things he’s done to Bum and specific things his father did to his mother. She sends the implicit message (because that’s what good writing is, folks) that an abusive homosexual relationship and an abusive heterosexual relationship are fundamentally the same thing.
That’s not all I admire about the series, but this is a really big thing that I haven’t noticed people talking about. Anyway…
Yes, Killing Stalking is disturbing. Yes, there is a lack of consent in many of the sexual situations depicted. Yes, the whole thing makes you a little sick, with its dark, dull color scheme and graphic violence and the character’s freaky expressions. But it also might be something Korea really, really needs right now.
THIS
It’s almost as if cultural context matters or something
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