benevolent-incubus:

benevolent-incubus:

dangankinsona:

 Lemonrazorblades (their tumblr they also go by

whats-up-persona which is the one with the content i was referring to)  joined my server today they posted their blog and my friend liked the url and decided to look into their blog. They found NSFW work of Futaba who is a minor and is only 15. We spoke to the user on discord and kindly told them why we were kicking them and they got angry. 

akiratakeyourheartkurusu ( their discord being ♔~Akira Kurusu~♔#1174 )had joined the server beforehand and was the significant other of lemonrazorblades. They were very angry that we kicked their girlfriend and told us off first stating that they personally didn’t know futaba was 14 and then moments later defending their girlfriend. 

they left and moments later a discord by the name of 

Boysenberry Erai#1181 comes in and spams loads of futaba child porn into the server. It was extremely upsetting and childish of them to do. Sadly I didn’t catch the numbers of Lemonrazorblades discord but I do have this screenshot of a mod in my server confronting them. 

Please if you could all spread this in order to keep others safe from these predators that would be greatly appreciated. They really upset me and the others in the server.   Forgive me for any typos or errors, I’m still very very shaken. They’re also now claiming us of harassing when the only message that was sent aside from my mods message to them was a message from me explaining why I banned the person. They are saying we’re accusing them of doing this shit, when they literally are doing this shit.  They probably didn’t think we’d come that them with all this stuff, so yeah…we did. 

note: also you can say our server said no nsfw and you didn’t post nsfw, but you posted a blog linking directly to nsfw of a child, refuse to tag nsfw on your blog, and pedophilia is not a allowed on the server and seeing to the fact that she’s 15 years old, that’s nsfw of a minor. Which is not allowed in or out of server and is illegal. 

-mod goro

Persona characters are not real people. They are not pedos. What makes
you able to judge an adult over their life choices? There is a HUGE
difference between anime/game characters and real people. We don’t go
out and fuck real kids you sick fuck. And for the record, yes. I’m 27.
My gf is 24. We cosplay as the characters and we are a couple. We RP
them at a college state. Anyone want to start shit, come at me cause I’m
not a pedophile but I don’t enjoy being called out as one. -Malkira
Alloces.

I’m 27. I am an adult. I have sex. I read hentai and
write it for amusement. But a pedo I am not. It’s called adult
entertainment. You go to conventions and see thousands of doujins for
sale. You don’t see the shop owners in trouble. It’s official merch. You
can buy pillows of Futaba, risque. SHE IS AN ANIME/GAME character. Not a
real life fucking being.

You’re fucking kids and have to get
off your high horse and stop thinking you can judge others based on
their preferences. But over all, you’re ignorant as fuck for attacking
someone and calling them a pedo for liking a GAME character. You’re not some white knight warrior, changing the world for the better.

“why is saying ‘i hate pedophilia’ a controversial opinion on this site?”

i’ll tell you, it’s because you fuckers literally call relationships between two adults with an age gap pedophilia

#stop abusing serious terms until they lose all meaning ffs

things I have seen called pedophilia on this hellsite with my own two eyes

– a relationship between two adults with the youngest being 25

– a high school senior dating a high school junior

– a college senior being sexually interested in a college freshman

– size difference fetish art featuring two adult characters

– consenting adults engaging in kink with other consenting adults

– writing about 2 teenagers of similar ages having sex

– shipping characters with vaguely defined ages who are treated as adults in canon

–

telling kids that asexuality exists

– sex education

like, I shouldn’t have to ask myself if the
person being accused of pedophilia is an actual child molester or if
they reblog shippy vo|tron fanart

Antis: Why do people hate us for not liking pedophilia :////

Also Antis: *call
out everything under the sun that isn’t pedophilia as pedophilia and
then wonder why the fuck nobody takes pedophilia claims seriously
anymore*

I wrote this post on September 4th, 2017. It only took a month. (From that point on.)

False
callout posts get hundreds if not thousands of notes (albeit at least
half of them confused or rejecting the accusations), while posts trying
to draw attention to individuals that might pose actual danger go ignored.

There’s
something demonstrably harmful to minors and adults alike, especially
to victims/survivors – it’s how much of a rhetorical nightmare shipping
discourse is, and how much it actually desensitizes people to the
subjects in question. You do not want people to become callous and
dismissive, but the individuals continuously fabricating accusations,
watering down definitions, making completely outrageous claims, and
concentrating their opportunistic activism on ‘problematic content’ do everything possible to erode the patience, understanding, sympathy and empathy of the people around them.

Please, please stop trying to sell your ship wars as literally anything else. You’re doing more damage than any piece of fiction possibly could. This is how you are affecting reality, and the effect your actions have is unquestionably bad.

You have to start taking these subjects seriously again. You absolutely
have to. When you’re not using certain terms correctly, you’re not
respecting their meaning, and you don’t take what they stand for
seriously enough, because in your mind the definition can be changed or
applied to different things.

Shipping that deals with entirely fictional characters is inconsequential and amoral in every possible instance. This applies to drawn and written works, as well. Fictional characters aren’t real people. Real people law doesn’t apply to them. You need to understand this.

Here’s an example:
Shipping entirely fictional characters -> creates no discomfort for the characters involved, because they are not real; the effect it has on you as a person is your responsibility

Creating/consuming explicit/mature content of entirely fictional characters -> creates no discomfort for the characters involved, because they are not real; the effect it has on you as a person is your responsibility

I’m talking about entirely fictional characters. This excludes the shipping
of real people – actual living and breathing human people. Not
historical figures. People that are alive today. A person. (We still
know what a person is, right?) The shipping of real people is a different subject entirely, and it should be approached differently. Still not a crime. Just different.

The bottom line is:
Stop treating fictional characters like real people.
Stop implying that shipping ‘matters’.
Stop involving serious subjects to give your anti-ship arguments more weight and meaning. It’s just a ship. Calm down.
Stop claiming that fiction has a direct, constant, measurable effect on reality. (It has an effect, but not like you think it does.)
Stop saying “This is abuse/incest/pedophilia/etc” when you really want to say “I don’t like it”.

hey
so I have to hear about actual cases of child sexual abuse pretty often
in my work and it tears at my heart and accusations of paedophilia over
depictions of fictional characters infuriate me, especially if people
take them so far that they waste law enforcement time and resources that
could have been spent investigating actual crimes in which a real live
human child was harmed.

False callout posts get hundreds if not thousands of notes (albeit at
least half of them confused or rejecting the accusations), while posts
trying to draw attention to individuals that might pose actual danger go ignored.

I’ve seen survivors writing and being told
they “write like pedophiles” and be retraumatized by antis a hell of a
lot more often than I’ve seen fictional ships actually hurt people.

Blacklist
exists. Block your triggers. Block your squicks. Save your pitchforks
for actual abusers and people who actually hurt children. There are
plenty of valid targets out there. Save your high horse for the places
you can actually do some good.

There are a ton of genres I don’t
read, lots of tags I just skip. It’s okay to curate your own media
consumption. You don’t have to finish everything you start.

I have literally walked away from fics that hit my squick spot two chapters in within the last 24 hours.

benevolent-incubus:

benevolent-incubus:

dangankinsona:

 Lemonrazorblades (their tumblr they also go by

whats-up-persona which is the one with the content i was referring to)  joined my server today they posted their blog and my friend liked the url and decided to look into their blog. They found NSFW work of Futaba who is a minor and is only 15. We spoke to the user on discord and kindly told them why we were kicking them and they got angry. 

akiratakeyourheartkurusu ( their discord being ♔~Akira Kurusu~♔#1174 )had joined the server beforehand and was the significant other of lemonrazorblades. They were very angry that we kicked their girlfriend and told us off first stating that they personally didn’t know futaba was 14 and then moments later defending their girlfriend. 

they left and moments later a discord by the name of 

Boysenberry Erai#1181 comes in and spams loads of futaba child porn into the server. It was extremely upsetting and childish of them to do. Sadly I didn’t catch the numbers of Lemonrazorblades discord but I do have this screenshot of a mod in my server confronting them. 

Please if you could all spread this in order to keep others safe from these predators that would be greatly appreciated. They really upset me and the others in the server.   Forgive me for any typos or errors, I’m still very very shaken. They’re also now claiming us of harassing when the only message that was sent aside from my mods message to them was a message from me explaining why I banned the person. They are saying we’re accusing them of doing this shit, when they literally are doing this shit.  They probably didn’t think we’d come that them with all this stuff, so yeah…we did. 

note: also you can say our server said no nsfw and you didn’t post nsfw, but you posted a blog linking directly to nsfw of a child, refuse to tag nsfw on your blog, and pedophilia is not a allowed on the server and seeing to the fact that she’s 15 years old, that’s nsfw of a minor. Which is not allowed in or out of server and is illegal. 

-mod goro

Persona characters are not real people. They are not pedos. What makes
you able to judge an adult over their life choices? There is a HUGE
difference between anime/game characters and real people. We don’t go
out and fuck real kids you sick fuck. And for the record, yes. I’m 27.
My gf is 24. We cosplay as the characters and we are a couple. We RP
them at a college state. Anyone want to start shit, come at me cause I’m
not a pedophile but I don’t enjoy being called out as one. -Malkira
Alloces.

I’m 27. I am an adult. I have sex. I read hentai and
write it for amusement. But a pedo I am not. It’s called adult
entertainment. You go to conventions and see thousands of doujins for
sale. You don’t see the shop owners in trouble. It’s official merch. You
can buy pillows of Futaba, risque. SHE IS AN ANIME/GAME character. Not a
real life fucking being.

You’re fucking kids and have to get
off your high horse and stop thinking you can judge others based on
their preferences. But over all, you’re ignorant as fuck for attacking
someone and calling them a pedo for liking a GAME character. You’re not some white knight warrior, changing the world for the better.

You can stop saying that cartoon fan art and fanfiction is “illegal” now.

tenaflyviper:

And
before you cry about anyone “supporting pedophilia!!!”, the point here
is that what you’re complaining about (aka, shipping teenage cartoon
characters, which has been a thing for decades) IS NOT PEDOPHILIA.  Literally no one else has ever even considered it to be that before, and you’re abusing what that word means.

According to the 18 U.S. Code § 2256 (yes, the same code that antis have been using a screencap of, but omitting the last part of in order to conceal the truth):

“The
term “indistinguishable” used with respect to a depiction, means
virtually indistinguishable, in that the depiction is such that an
ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction
is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct. This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults.”

Also note the phrase “recognizable as an actual person” in 9ii.

(For
real though–I have to laugh if you’re gonna tell me cartoons and anime
characters look like real human beings.  Like, who the fuck has eyes the
size of fists and heads the size of pumpkins???  You guys are idiots…)

This is also further upheld by the Supreme Court ruling of Ashcroft vs Free Speech Coalition, and again in Ashcroft vs American Civil Liberties Union (the PROTECT Act has also had related portions–specifically 1466A, which antis love to parade around–judged as unconstitutional on a federal level, as was a result of United States v. Handley, in which the defendant was convicted due to a guilty plea bargain, and not
actually convicted on the initial charges of obscenity.  The plea
bargain was made under the belief that the jury chosen to judge him
would not acquit
him of the obscenity charges if they were shown the images in
question).  Handley’s case is the only one so far that dealt solely with drawings of characters that did not exist in real life (as
in, without further discovery of more serious content in the
defendant’s possession–or ties to illegal sites–which is what occurred
with other cases that antis tend to cite).

Also:

• 13-17-year-olds (aka minors) only make up 15% of this site’s user base.  Meanwhile, the site has always allowed adult content.
  This means that staff is trusting you to browse appropriately, and to
  take responsibility for your browsing using the tools they have given to
  you (like blocking, and filtering search results).  They are allowing
  you to be here under the assumption that you are mature enough to handle
  it.  Your behavior is only showing staff that they might want to raise
  the minimum age limit (which is 17+ for mobile users, by the way).  
  When faced with the choice of either trying to monitor/control millions
  of people, or simply adding a new age limitation, a company will always choose the easier option.  Don’t ruin the site for all the teens that aren’t huge, easily-offended pissbabies.
• No, fiction does not affect reality the way you want to believe.  The
  statistics for rape, child abuse, assault, murder, etc. have all
  experienced a dramatic decline over the past few decades, in spite of
  our media becoming more graphically violent, and pornography being more
  easily accessible.  Your logic just doesn’t hold up to the facts (by the
  way, this also applies to stories with mature themes like rape or
  murder, or stories with abusive or taboo relationships.  IT’S JUST
  FICTION, PEOPLE.   It’s a reflection of various aspects of our
  humanity, which includes the things we most fear.  Writing and reading
  about them is one way we can strip them of that fear and power they hold
  over us.  It doesn’t mean we stop recognizing those things as morally
  wrong–it’s just a way of reconciling their existence, and coping with
  it).
• No, children wouldn’t find truckloads of porn in Google’s Safe Search.  In fact, for most fandoms, you’ll have a hard time finding adult content even with Safe Search OFF.  Google tailors its results to your browsing.  If you’re finding “problematic” content, all that proves is that you were searching for it in the first place.
• The internet is not a babysitter.  Small
  children shouldn’t be on it unsupervised to begin with.  If you
  wouldn’t let them go to Columbia by themselves–the drug and murder
  capitol of the world–then they shouldn’t be online by themselves.  Public spaces are not “safe”.  It’s not the job of millions of strangers to constantly look out for other people’s children (nor are they obligated to look out for you, for that matter).  That’s the responsibility of their PARENTS.  PERIOD.
• An abuser can groom a victim without ever using anything sexual whatsoever.  It’s about trust.  It can be something as simple as an interest in model airplanes–does that make those
  “problematic”?  As for those abusers, chances are that they’re not some
  random stranger on the internet, but someone known to the victim.  You
  may not want to hear this, but the greatest threat to children
  statistically?  It’s their own mothers.
• Antis
  only came about within the past two years.  Before that, there was no
  real drama in fandoms beyond the occasional shipping war, which no one
  treated like anything but a shipping war.  You are the ones that made fandoms toxic. Fan art and fanfiction didn’t affect any of us the way you’re claiming before.  Hell–people have been sexualizing cartoons for literally as long as they’ve existed.  That’s almost 100 fucking years,
  and it hasn’t caused a goddamn thing.  You’re abusing and trivializing
  extremely serious issues in order to use as leverage to threaten and
  silence others, and you bloody well know it.  You choose the things that you’re aware that everyone hates:
  Pedophilia, abuse, etc.  You know that just mentioning these things
  causes an instant knee-jerk reaction–one that few people will bother to
  look into beyond the initial claim.  You’re deliberately emotionally manipulating others.  Those are the tactics of abusers (and don’t even say “UM you’re calling survivors abusers!!”, because those who have been abused are the biggest demographic at risk for becoming abusers.  No, it doesn’t mean every abused child grows up to be an abuser, but the number of serial killers that were abused as children is hard to ignore).
• Adult content of fictional characters could actually help prevent cases of child sexual abuse.  But then, we all know this was never about children for any
  anti, or you wouldn’t limit your concern to just the cartoons that
  you’re personally interested in.  Honestly, I would think you’d be more
  concerned about the fact that sites like Pornhub and Redtube require no
  age verification, account, password, or credit card to access.
• Point blank: What you are doing is called “crying wolf”, and it has real consequences.
  For example: Anti-vaxxers.  All it took was one man claiming a link
  between vaccines and autism, and now diseases like polio are turning up
  again because of people who refuse to vaccinate their children.  If you make claims of pedophilia where it doesn’t actually exist, you are hurting legitimate claims of pedophilia.

So, anyway, if you could stop accusing teenage girls (yes, the majority of the people you’re harassing are young women–usually minors themselves) of being “pedophiles” over something that’s 100% legal (which
is shaming them during a period of their life where they’re using fan
art and fanfiction as a safe means of exploring their own sexuality, and
is honestly misogynistic as hell of you), and that was going on long before you came along without any issue, that’d be super.

Oh,
and by the way–if you choose to falsely accuse another user of
pedophilia, that IS enough of a violation of the Terms of Service for
staff to delete your account. I’d tell you to just ask
“bipolaramyrose”, but well…she no longer has an account for that very reason.